Lj\gUk':Q9d P\Ko?#sU;:MRk;'FTz![]wJQRL/"&Xp]q%F"S4y_fY;<5PemA,YosVrs>l6:cc 2023 Arnold Palmer Invitational - Discussion and Links to Photos, 2023 The Honda Classic - Discussion and Links to photos, 2023 Genesis Invitational - Discussion and Links to photos, 2023 Waste Management Phoenix Open - Discussion and Links to Photos, 2023 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am - Discussion and Links to all photos, 2023 HSBC Women's World Championship (Mar 02 - 05), Byron Morgan best for your balls DH89 & the elusive DBCM 8802, TWO PUTTERS - ONE POST. Thanks this will help my golf game so much now. The following graph shows a plot of the AMAs shots from 160 yards. However the pros have what is called a stock yardage for their irons, which equates essentially to the average distance they will hit a full shot with each iron swinging normally. [/quote] I wonder what his user name is on WRX.. a lower loft) or a touch weaker (i.e. I have also never heard a beginner or poorer striker of the golf ball say I need to lower my ball flight which is what these are said to do. When it comes to his mid-irons he hits his 6-iron and 7-iron 195 and 180 yards. The average drive on tour last year was 289 yards. It's good for some laughs. He is 180 ball speed off the driver with outstanding launch numbers. Those numbers seem about right. Not uncommon these days for elite swing speed If you are a right handed player the slice and above numbers could be due to a heel strike. The AMA has an average club speed of 93.4 mph and an average total distance of 214 yards. [/quote] Add That Little Extra Limited also participates in other affiliate programs with FlexOffers, CJ, Svorn and other sites and is compensated for referring traffic and business to these companies (again at no cost to you). [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Ratio - 1.48[/background][/size][/color] For example, I could average over 300 yards per round during the summer with a driver. Because winning money, titles, and shooting low scores doesnt involve all that much power hitting, especially with the irons. As you can see, 45% have a club speed between 91 and 100 mph., The AMA is far from efficient with his driver. Heat treatment This treatment is now applied to the impact areas of the face to increase durability. 52* & 58* Callaway MD2 // S-300 Not sure how you measure it down to the exact yard on an average driving range. Titleist 712 CB 4-9, MB PW KBS Tour (HS1X) My longest drive was 270. I carry my 8 iron about 158 yards when Im hitting it good (see above). It's a pretty common way to play the game and it helps the scoring aspect of your game tremendously. I have played golf for 22 years. My time spent on the driving range tells me there are a lot of guys hitting 100 yards, 125, 150, 175a few hitting 190.and an even smaller number hitting over 200. The new Vokey SM9 wedges has a focus on this exact shot by placing weight higher in the toe. When you account for factors such as wind, elevation, ground conditions and also the context in which the shot is being played Koepka, like all the pros, has a number of options for each iron shot which makes the question of how far he hits each iron a bit more complex than at first you may think. :-). On top of that it drew me feeling like unless I can hit it 250 every time and at least shoot in the low 90s from the Blue I might as well just give golf up. I hit the same. Can crush it further by trap drawing it really stepping on it. Flexibility, speed, and knowing how to transfer energy the most effi But if you can hit it 275 on your home muni track, that is at least 290 on a tour track with manicured fairways and perfect level tee boxes to hit from. [quote name='xmanhockey7' timestamp='1364353356' post='6703825'] The main part of the fitting was when I moved onto the chipping green and started to hit bunker shots - these clubs just got better and better, theyre so secure in strike and very reliable. With the AMA averaging 30 yards less than his potential, there is a lot of room for improvement. What is evident is you obviously don't play with good amateur players. People that dwell on the fact that other people like to know their distances are funny. The SM9s are an evolution of the Vokeys but not a drastic change, youll notice a difference between these and the SM6s but only a subtle change from the SM8s. If length was a determing factor for professional status then we'd have the Wedge players tour and not the Long Drivers tour. Spin- 2645, 1948 low, 3745 high Sorry for the ramble. But if you can hit it 275 on your home muni track, that is at least 290 on a tour track with manicured fairways and perfect level tee boxes to hit from. f[yZ3 /=KCYOSg~VN@ ae@.Xq@U$ Q\8H`/ 9Hj: .1xq Im a 42 year old 59 and been playing golf since I was 35. Not at all. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. They must get club speed confused with ball speed, Cough Some people may exaggerate slightly , Hi My ball speed is with driver 195 km/h AND 160 km/h with a 6 iron Schaft = rgular or ???? [/quote] My teachers are always trying to get me to change my swing to generate club head speed, but this consistently leaves me frustrated and physically sore. Its a whole different story. Titleist 913D3 9.5* Diamana D+ 72s The professionals are going to hit the ball on the screws significantly more often than the AMA. Justin came from 7 strokes back to start the final round at the 2022 PGA Championship which ties the largest final round comeback in PGA Championship history. Even my 4 iron ball speed max is 137 and Im getting 235 yards. Youd be correct and that is why its always best to get fitted and discuss purchases with your pro. Justin Thomas and Excel Sports Management are not responsible for lost, stolen or damaged items. The strike felt tight knit and the spin was better than my SM8 52 degree wedge. Ive tried this with many people and they shoot about their handicap. All rights reserved, https://justinthomasgolf.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Charles-Lambert-video-2.mp4, https://justinthomasgolf.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Justin-Thomas-2.mp4, https://justinthomasgolf.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/20220908_125734.mp4. My total yardage for my 7 iron is 190, my ball speed is 119 mph. So just to confirm what we are indeed up against we took a detailed look at just how far the top pros are hitting their clubs. I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. Shaft: Aldila NV, 7-wood: Callaway Big Bertha This data further confirms the need for most golfers to aim towards the center of the green on all approach shots. I think you wish you hit it further. I am writing a dissertation at university and was wondering how you got all your data. [/quote] What is fascinating also though as you dig more into the figures is the distance control options the best players in the world have with almost every club in their bag! [quote name='jeffrey08250' timestamp='1364416031' post='6708919'] Can trackman info like the dispersion plot data be projected over a course layout? Most of the guys I play/practice with are +2 to 5 handicaps. I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. You can see the fuller head at the top of the toe in the lob wedges when the clubs are aligned next to each other, but you can only slightly notice a change in shape at address. The difference in a good amateur player and a touring professional is typically going to be short game, endurance, and that space between the ears. [/quote] Most golfers think that the guys on the PGA Tour hit the ball incredibly long. WebPGA Tour players hit their driver a total of 296.6 yards on average with a carry distance of 284.3 yards according to official 2022 Shotlink data. 6 0 obj Sure, I see guys hitting 250-300 yards, but they are far from the norm. What I find funny is the number of people on here that think it's ridiculous that an amateur golfer claims to have similar numbers to a professional. The materials are superb and generate fantastic feedback on the strike through the head, shafts, grip and into your hands. The previous table looked at the approach distance the AMA will have based on hole length and average drive distance. Can i play a pro v1, or a harder ball I wont more distance KIND regards Rene Claeys Ren. As you can guess my improvement has now become dependent on driver efficiency and distance. Thomas breakout season came in 2016-17 with five of his PGA TOUR wins, including the PGA Championship, 12 top 10 finishes and, ultimately, the FedEx Championship. Please have a look at the TrackMan locator at this link; https://mytrackman.com/public/locator, Kind regards Niklas Bergdahl Support Manager. I suppose you have the biggest and fastest car as well ? The title would be just as useful as well. Shafts: KBS Tour 125 S+, Wedges: TaylorMade Milled Grind 3 (50-09SB, 54-11SB, 60-08LB) Through such initiatives as the Justin Thomas Youth of the Year Leadership Academy with the Boys & Girls Club of Kentuckiana, USA Cares and the First Tee, Justin is committed to showing compassion, displaying kindness, and making a difference in the world. 913 HD Justin Thomas is one of the most exciting and popular golfers on the PGA TOUR. He is giving up 30 yards of total distance off the tee, which makes his approach shots more difficult. There is nothing worse than getting the club stuck in the ground at impact. Shaft: Aldila RIP Phenom, 3-wood: Titleist 906F4 (13.5 degrees) [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] I wouldn't take a trackman stat to the bank. T 'enG~q/Om\#Q`{ HLRpC45`|NiG*"2agUTeu9d10S8xl?O`,`~ja~=j'(d~e?7UN+&iHPI=8NQQ={"K9R1d"3j$NJd[?@fUM)IxJ)Sn-bcVk7*"d9;&!0tB%=7$W&q&:L^q1|T]6k)SF People that take hole distance & distance on approach to calculate driving distance is what's funny. Learn to play your game, but keep pushing yourself where sensible and on the range, and youll enjoy your round more and start playing much more consistent golf. I know I'm not a short hitter & I know there's a ton of bs on this board. Once AMA understands the likely outcomes for various shots, then he can most effectively implement course strategy for the benefit of improving his golf performance. I cant hide my excitement and love for a Vokey wedge and it doesnt change on these. If I slow it down some and shoot for 280-290, I hit more fairways. Mr Vokey has listened and gone on to design a wedge with the feedback of those players in mind. And for those golfers looking to make more substantial improvements to their game, the TrackMan Combine provides a roadmap for the improvement journey and accurate, immediate feedback at all checkpoints / stops along the way. SM5 53, 59 Their drives seem to always go miles and I dont know about you but Im always checking myself to think whether I indeed heard the commentator correctly that they are actually hitting that high an iron for that 200+ yard approach shot. I'm 6'3, in pretty good shape and played baseball my entire life. The questions you ask are great questions, but unfortunately that data is not readily available. Angle of attack, club speed, path, club face. There is CG shift between lofts and there is a progressive hosel length in the wedges to balance out weight distribution. I'd really like to see Tiger's path and face numbers too among others especially seeing how far left he aims at times. Short hitter compared to the average WRXer Driver: Titleist TSi3 (10 degrees) Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Blue 6 X 3-wood: Titleist TSR3 (15 degrees @ 14.25) Shaft: Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW Blue 75 TX Hybrid: Titleist TSi2 (21 degrees) Shaft: Graphite Design Tour AD IZ [] I can say that Trackman is second to none, and its always my first recommendation to others. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364403614' post='6707409'] [/quote] Required fields are marked *. As he becomes more efficient, the AMA has shorter approach shots which lead to closer proximity to the hole. As club speed increases, those golfers tend to have lower handicaps. Many golfers save some money and buy the SM8s and others will upgrade from SM7s to SM9s. Although early days yet is there a general reason for the different results in club path. I take most info in many sections of this board with a grain of salt. Not As Much As You Think! Thankfully also the SM9s dont seem to be ripping the cover off your ball, but looking at the Trackman numbers the backspin was high which you'd expect from the milled grooves. Thomas breakout season came in 2016-17 with five of his PGA TOUR wins, including the PGA Championship, 12 top 10 finishes and, ultimately, the FedEx Championship. Made more swing improvement of late and starting to control my driver more. You've given me a good laugh for two days now. The longest player hits it 320 yards on average and the longest recorded drive in 2022 is 460 yards. You could take my woods and irons and pair it with Phil's wedge play and Stricker's putter and I'd be an average PGA tour player. Do you have Average Female Amature driver swing speed? Take Bubba for example who can increase his AoA to 5-6 and hit balls 350 yards in the air when screwing around on the range however on the course he hardly does that. Without such a grant, his family would not have been able to follow his passion. TaylorMade Stealth+ 8 w/ PX Handcrafted Prototype EvenFlow Black 65 6.5, TaylorMade SIM ROCKET 14.5 w/ PX Handcrafted EvenFlow Black 75 6.5, TaylorMade SIM 18 Tour Issue w/ PX Handcrafted EvenFlow Black 75 6.5, TaylorMade SIM 2 Max Rescue 3-19 w/ PX RDX Smoke 90 6.5, TaylorMade SIM 2 Max Rescue 4-22 w/ PX RDX Smoke 90 6.5, Srixon ZX7 6-AW w/ Nippon Modus Tour125 Stiff Spin Rate is on the high side, which also could indicate an off-center strike, and probably a negative attack angle both will shorten your distance. What a great read with invaluable data and information. Items sent in without return postage will not be returned. Also, the dispersion for misses will be much wider for the AMA than the professional. I know I'm not a short hitter & I know there's a ton of bs on this board. 2 vs 3 vs 4 Hybrid Distances, How Far Should I Hit My Irons? Before it is assumed that the AMA should simply club up, actual distances with each club should be determined. WebJon Rahm TrackMan Numbers. It is fun and I find that I usually am scoring better than I would say 90% of the guys I play with now, hitting on average longer than 90% and I realize that that is because shooting in the 90s means in golf you are better than most so above average which unless you played since a teenager and have no other life and want to play 4 to 5 days a week or more that is all you can ask for. Distance to Apex 195.9 Display as a link instead, If length was a determing factor for professional status then we'd have the Wedge players tour and not the Long Drivers tour. Take Bubba for example who can increase his AoA to 5-6 and hit balls 350 yards in the air when screwing around on the range however on the course he hardly does that. They are clean and contemporary. [/quote] The ball shoots from the face and you lose the control of the ball. 19* SLDR Resuce // Speeder 9.3s I ultimately decided on the Tour AD DI 6X as a better choice. I think you wish you hit it further. [quote name='J.W.' It was not until I got together with almost every other golfer played and realized most like as in 90% were just like me which was a work in progress. Looking at how far pros hit their irons is a much easier task these days due to all the tracking technology that exists however it still does not make it an exact science. Don't doubt the ability of some people to produce similar numbers to the pros. No question - 100%. [/quote] Angle of attack, club speed, path, club face. Ball Speed- 176.38 average, 179.45 high People like you that rant about longer amateurs is what makes for good laughs. With a collection of prestigious wins, including the 2017 FedExCup, 2017 PGA Championship, 2021 PLAYERS and 2022 PGA Championship, Justin Thomas is known to many as a celebrated professional on the PGA TOUR. There he became one of the storied programs most decorated athletes being named Phil Mickelson Freshman of the Year, Jack Nicklaus Player of the Year, the Haskins Award Winner as the most outstanding player in collegiate and amateur golf, and capped his collegiate career by helping the Crimson Tide win their first National Championship in 2013. Here are Tiger's averages for this season on shots that were measured: The consistency of impact through the sand was staggering, I seemed to take the exact same amount of sand and impact location every time. Short hitter compared to the average WRXer I've had the privilege of playing with and watching tour players in person, so I know what they're capable of. 5 Testers Needed! *Normalized data was used to calculate approach shot distances. By Web27K views, 94 likes, 1 loves, 33 comments, 13 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from TrackMan: Congratulations to Justin Thomas, winning the CJ Cup! Book a Session for only R500 to get your Swing Analysis. Overall I cant fault these wedges for an elite player as we are aware of the slight differences of feel at strike, flight and contact with the ground. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] Driver: Charles Kelley whats in the bag accurate as of the Pebble Beach Pro-Am. My SM8 wedges are a few years old and have played over the recommended 75 rounds. You can follow GolfWRX on Twitter @GolfWRX, Facebook and Instagram. [b]Tiger Woods[/b] Thats a course representative of the average golfer? The numbers posted above are cool to me because you can see Tiger hits balls on the range like he does on the course. I know I'm not a short hitter & I know there's a ton of bs on this board. Desired launch angle, spin rates change based on driver speed. Here are Tiger's averages for this season on shots that were measured: Sorry that I can not be of better help right now. Check out the actual averages from the PGA Tour for the entire year: Now this is not to say that a tour player cant ramp it up another gear if they felt like showing off. Is it around 25-35% less then the AMA group? The SMs have been nurtured and feel just beautiful at impact, the GW is super consistent with full shots and the chip and run.

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