Charlie. I bought one at a Sheriff's auction about 20 years ago. Great 'package'. But once you mod 'em they lose all collector's value. It is a V-44 pattern made for the US military by multiple manufacturers. They sharpen up like a razor and I need to make heavy duty sheaths for them. It may not display this or other websites correctly. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. RARE Vintage Western 2 Blade #691 TRAPPER BONE Handle NICE ! (70% off), Sale Price $135.00 Thanks for all the information! Not that I advocate getting a knife for the sole purpose of making it collect dust in plain view. Original Price $615.00 by WesternBowieAxe Wed May 02, 2018 3:11 am, Post Its 11 and 3/8 inches full tang steel blade is sharp right out of the box and will come in handy when performing a wide variety of tasks. Please. These two variations appear during the time period of 1964 to at least 1967. IMHO many more variations on these knives also fall into the proper Vietnam time period. Etsys 100% renewable electricity commitment includes the electricity used by the data centers that host Etsy.com, the Sell on Etsy app, and the Etsy app, as well as the electricity that powers Etsys global offices and employees working remotely from home in the US. I don't consider it to be bad. razor sharp and good in the hand. Thanks for all the Western Bowie related info, catalog links, etc. This is a 1980s Western W-49 Bowie knife with rosewood and brass handle and tang valued at $160 to $200CAD. (45% off), Sale Price 2,422,280 We've got Bowie knives of all shapes and sizes at Knife Depot. From handmade pieces to vintage treasures ready to be loved again, Etsy is the global marketplace for unique and creative goods. My knife has an abbreviated guard that was done by a previous owner and is currently semi-Bagwellized. Found something you love but want to make it even more uniquely you? Original Price 1,206,897 (30% off), Sale Price 1,183,432 But I believe I can give you some good advice. The W49 is the 9 1/2" "V44" type with the immense S-curve guard and laminated rosewood slab handles. Original Price $188.24 My grandfather carried this one for 50 years: You must log in or register to reply here. You must log in or register to reply here. Original Price $150.00 Western Outlaw Bowie Knife by Timber Rattler It is 17 inches long and is almost 0.5 inches wide. I just scored a copy of Harvey Platts' "The Knife Makers Who Went West" from 1978. I understand where you are coming from regarding edges. Original Price 2,958,284 View Etsys Privacy Policy. I accept payment in the form of Pay Pal, Credit Card (Online Only), Personl Check and Money Orders. $86.70, $289.00 Send me exclusive offers, unique gift ideas, and personalized tips for shopping and selling on Etsy. I obviously don't know everything about these (or any other Western), just what I've picked up here on BF and other forums, but I think the knives were still being made at Western's Longmont, Colorado factory after Coleman bought the company, so they were being made by the same people on the same equipment using the same materials. Late 1800s antique British US Western style Bowie knife marked IXL. 0 CART. You could buy it for its charming looks alone, but it performs nearly as well. 1 month ago on ebay.com. The ones brought home were kept, or given to some relative. If you are not familiar with that wood, it is in the same class as white oak. Original Price $200.00 3,722,167, 4,962,808 Western USA W49 Wood Bowie Fixed Blade Knife & Sheath c.1984 - Wood Handles - No Cracks - Brass Guard - Very Nice Unused Condition in the Original Leather Sheath - Approx. Thin edges can chop without damage, you just have to keep the blade straight so the force of the swing is aligned with the edge. Report an Issue | This Auction is for an Authentic Western Boulder U.S.A W49 "M" Bowie Knife w/Wooden Plaque - Circa 1840.1977 was the first year that Western knives started using the alphabet, starting with the letter "A", to date code their knives. If there is a letter on the blade under the Western name it is post 1977. Western Alamo Bowie Knife 4.8 ( 10 reviews) Your Price: $106.99 Solid stainless steel blade Handsome wooden handle with gold pins Engraved Jim Bowie name plate Includes leather sheath and certificate of authenticity Measures: 11" blade; 17 1/4" overall Product Description From the movie "The Alamo" comes the world renown Jim Bowie knife. (45% off), Keep collections to yourself or inspire other shoppers! Original Price 6,157,389 2. Yea it is an old thread. Original Price 4,844,560 i have had a western bowie for 30 years. I had put together this table that I'm going to post but not sure how it'll show up. For Sale By: Sanders Knives (Sanders Knives), View all items for sale by Sanders Knives, Shipping & Handling to United States Addresses: $8.50. (70% off), Sale Price 2,684,911 It holds a razor sharp edge and for a knife with a 9 inch blade does a wonderful job. The one that I have with a couple of bends in the blade came from me chopping a couple branches off from a dead piece of tree many years ago. hardwood handles,leather sheath. If you don't have an account, create one here. Does shopping on Etsy help support small businesses? When Coleman bought Western in 1984, they continued the practice, up through M. When Camillus bought Western from Coleman in 1991, they dropped the practice.   Vietnam   |   English (US)   |   (VND), remembering account, browser, and regional preferences, remembering privacy and security settings, personalized search, content, and recommendations, helping sellers understand their audience, showing relevant, targeted ads on and off Etsy. The W49s did leave the factory with a high polish on them. Back in the early, and late 70's, all the guys I approached for any type of knife, especially SOG knives, said they left them in Vietnam. Jul 5, 2013. It can also be identified by the smaller pins in the handle. Original Price $400.00 Used one for years for yardwork, camping, etc till I discovered machetes. Inspect in Game. Some of the technologies we use are necessary for critical functions like security and site integrity, account authentication, security and privacy preferences, internal site usage and maintenance data, and to make the site work correctly for browsing and transactions. It didn't have much heft. Charlie, http://img11.No_outside_hosting.us/g/cblziwcgkkgrhqyokpme0un.jpg/. According to Westerns 1986 catalog they started producing the W49 in 1964. Terms of Service. Damascus Steel: Is My Knife Real or Fake. by zzyzzogeton Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:04 am, Post Free shipping on orders $99+. (25% off), Sale Price 1,218,966 (70% off), Sale Price 3,263,547 I'm going to put a better edge on it and try it out! The knife on the left is the 2nd variant of the W49 and is blade marked: WESTERN / BOWIE / USA. Top Rated Seller. The unique design of the blade gave it its power and its name thanks to James Bowie, a hero of the Alamo gave it its prestige. It was also the last year they were made in Boulder, CO. - They moved to Longmont, CO. in 1978 and continued the alphabet dating code for another 15 years until they were sold at auction to Camillus in 1991. Original Price $121.68 I'd sure like to find one and would pay good money to acquire it. Chrome plating of the blade was to protect it from rust in the jungle. I bought one at a Sheriff's auction about 20 years ago. But I feel like your chart is about as accurate a depiction as one is likely to find. It has been custom painted with knotwork. Buy now. IMHO its hard to link gear made after 1972 to being In Country without being attached to some strong provenance. Thanks for the replies, I picked up one. I still havent actually put my hands on one of the W49s with the chrome plating. When Coleman bought Western in 1984, they continued the practice, up through M. When Camillus bought Western from Coleman in 1991, they dropped the practice. Is that a bad thing that it is not a Western Knife but a Coleman instead? Those partners may have their own information theyve collected about you. 2,068,966, 6,896,552 My biggest concern with their "chopping" ability is the very thin edge. The most common by far is the bowie with the wooden handle the (W49). Turning off the personalized advertising setting wont stop you from seeing Etsy ads or impact Etsy's own personalization technologies, but it may make the ads you see less relevant or more repetitive. 3.2 3.2 . Is it uncommon to come across a Bowie with that "been there and done that" look? Original Price 2,249,754 (60% off), Sale Price 4,173,623 I took it, the aforementioned W49 and a Case Alamo Bowie out in the yard and started chopping on a old log of locust wood I'd had laying around for a couple of years. The knife on the right in my picture above is an example of the 3rd variant. 3,047,783, 4,063,793 The USMC Rader Battalions of WW2 made this pattern their own and therefore famous. You can see where some of the plating is peeling with age and use. Vintage Western folding pocket knife # 51 Made in the USA!!! Etsy uses cookies and similar technologies to give you a better experience, enabling things like: Detailed information can be found in Etsys Cookies & Similar Technologies Policy and our Privacy Policy. 2,020,725, 3,367,876 Sellers looking to grow their business and reach more interested buyers can use Etsys advertising platform to promote their items. We've sent you an email to confirm your subscription. I gave one to my dad as a gift many years agothe knife I gave him is like a razor. #1 of 4 hotels in Bowie Location 4.3 Cleanliness 4.1 Service 4.0 Value 3.8 Located in Bowie,TX, the Best Western Bowie Inn & Suites is sure to provide a peaceful and comforting home away from home for any traveler. Frequently bought together + Total price: To see our price, add these items to your cart. One must handle this knife to appreciate the quality. The other three were heavly pitted from the jungle. Below are pictures of the guard: To the best of my knowledge the 4th variant would have the larger pins and would be guard marked similar to the 3rd variant. Western started making stainless versions of some of their knives as early as 1967. You never want to tell a Ranger he can't make a knife. Thanks zzyzzogeton! One is the lack of surviving documents from the Western Cutlery Co. . by zzyzzogeton Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:47 am, Post (25% off), Sale Price 2,603,550 (45% off), Sale Price 1,056,736 Covert Knife. You must log in or register to reply here. Etsy uses cookies and similar technologies to give you a better experience, enabling things like: Detailed information can be found in Etsys Cookies & Similar Technologies Policy and our Privacy Policy. Etsy is powered by 100% renewable electricity. SKIP. Original Price 4,881,657 $148.00, $185.00 Yes! i still have mine its a hellava knife!! The exception being that instead of the word Bowie on the pile side it would say "W49." The jets rip has an easily broken cat guard and a very thick grind not and efficient chopper . Timber Rattler Western Outlaw Bowie Knife $29.99 Gil Hibben Assault Tactical Knife With Sheath $77.99 Gil Hibben Highlander Bowie Damascus with Sheath $169.99 $116.98! Best Western Bowie Inn & Suites, Park's Inn, and Americas Best Value Inn Bowie are some of the most popular hotels for travelers looking to stay near Worlds Largest Bowie Knife. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. This Knife is available for immediate purchase by using the Add To Cart button to the right and then by following the instructions. $299.99 eBay SUPER RARE KABAR HOBO PERFECT HANDLES KNIFE, FORK, SPOON 1923 TO 1037 $875.00 eBay Case XX USA 10 Dot 1970 5254 Trapper Genuine Stag Handles Unused N Mint Specks $345.00 eBay RARE VINTAGE CASE XX REDBONE SCOUT UTILITY KNIFE 6445 R 1940-64 "NICE!!! The side by side testing I mentioned was chopping through a five inch thick seasoned locust log. Original Price 4,733,728 ** I "BUY" KNIVES ** - Any Size Collection!!! The W49 is the most common found today. Because it still seems like an amazing knife. (70% off). They are the older high carbon blades. $22.40, $28.00 Description. Original Price 9,852,217 Eventually purchased by Camillus in 1991, Western continued until Camillus expired in 2007. There is another subset of the W49 knives what I term . Comes with the original sheath, has two notches cutout at top, not sure why, but been there a while. This will differ depending on what options are available for the item. Charlie, how to identify a Vietnam Western Bowie Fighting Knife, US MILITARIA FORUM - COLLECTORS PRESERVING HISTORY, http://www.knifeforums.com/forums/showtopiid/872513/tp/1/. Ive got WW2 and earlier knives that left the factory chrome plated and most of them look as new or close to it. Stainless steel does not peel off as you know. Here is the best that I can find as far as their tang stamping is concerned That's about all I know. Just when you think you have them figured out one turns up that does not fit the mold. In 1978 the company moved to Longmont, CO. Learn more. Average depth of cut with a full swing was about a quarter inch. Corral have been captivating the imaginations of America's boys and girls for generations, as something about that lawless, pioneering time speaks to the heart of America's individualistic mentality. "Western" and "Coleman" are both brand names; which is it? NOTE: This is NOT AN AUCTION. 1964 to late 1965/early 1966. zzyzzogeton, thanks so much for your reply. In his books, Cole called them the V44 Types 1,2,3,4 (Collins, CaseXX, Western, Kinfolks) and the type 5, the CaseXX Fixed blade V44. The knife on the left is the 2nd variant of the W49 and is blade marked: The knife in the middle with the larger pins and modified guard is an example of the 5th variant, c.1977. Keep in mind that anyone can view public collectionsthey may also appear in recommendations and other places. Suggestions, Questions, Comments, Concerns, Alerts, Etc Member Store Tips, Tricks & Instructions, The Western Bowie / W49 Identification Thread, Re: The Western Bowie / W49 Identification Thread. The letters used start with "A" for 1977 and go on to "0" for 1991 when Camillus bought the rights to Western at auction. I think I read somewhere that when Camillus bought the name in 1991, they moved production to the Camillus factory in New York. by zzyzzogeton Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:45 am, Post Original Price 3,367,876 by kootenay joe Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:03 pm, Post Create an account or login in order to post a comment. Welcome and have a great stay lots to see and read around here. Powered by Invision Community. Its something for me to shoot for. #7. That makes it a pretty serious chopper in my book. For further info Google: "Bill Bagwell" or "Bagwell Bowie" Re: SOF magazine article c.1987 April issue, MySpace !function(d,s,id){var js,fjs=d.getElementsByTagName(s)[0];if(!d.getElementById(id)){js=d.createElement(s);js.id=id;js.src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js";fjs.parentNode.insertBefore(js,fjs);}}(document,"script","twitter-wjs"); i have one i bought late 80's i think 60 bucks otd, got it cuase a buddy had one and he loved it. Western Bowie Knife (1 - 40 of 159 results) Price ($) Shipping All Sellers 16-Inch Old Western Bowie Knife D2 Steel Fixed Blade Wooden Handle / Leather Knife Sheath scorpionhubus (30) $135.00 $150.00 (10% off) FREE shipping Tombstone Ike / Billy Clanton Bowie knife custom-made Hand grind in Texas carbon 1985 steel antler Handle made to order 1 week If it is legible and anyone can fill in any blanks or dispute any of the data, I am receptive to discussion. And, especially thanks for posting it here! The appearance of items in the individual listings may vary slightly from the one above. I did it out of personal curiosity when I got my Forester. It took me about thirty minutes to get halfway through the log. Thanks GIRLYmann! Typically, orders of $35 USD or more (within the same shop) qualify for free standard shipping from participating Etsy sellers. from United States. Tep. FREE SHIPPING ON ORDERS OVER $99* & 60-DAY RETURNS. (30% off), Sale Price $123.74 (45% off), Sale Price 1,637,685 Cut off the top guard years ago. When I see a Vietnam used knife for sale that is in mint condition I usually pass. Thanks! $21.96, $31.38 (45% off), Sale Price 2,955,665 Sale Price $120.00 At first only a jobbing business, by 1920 construction and machinery purchases were underway to begin manufacture of knives. Original Price 8,347,245 All About Pocket Knives is a knife related resource center for buying, selling, researching, and discussing all things knives, Post (15% off), Sale Price 2,733,744 Recently Added Knives by Maker Advanced Search Sell Your Knives. I hope that there will be enough detail for me to identify the order of tang and guard stamp introduction on the W49s and other models as well. Check out our awesome collection now. First off let me say this forum appears to be populated by some very knowledgeable people and some impressive knife makers. Our global marketplace is a vibrant community of real people connecting over special goods. $75.30, $188.24 The Timber Rattler Western Outlaw is an attention grabber with its classic gray hardwood handle. 1,516,995, 2,758,374 The W47 measures 12" from tip to hilt, W45 measures 9" and the 43 or mini measures 6 1/2". by zzyzzogeton Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:46 am, Post The second problem is defining the Vietnam time period for these knives and other equipment. (15% off), Sale Price 1,812,130 An "I" version would be from 1985, the year after Coleman took over. You are using an out of date browser. Engraved on brass guard CON EVANS and on the other side of guard CHICO. The online community of knife collectors, A Knife Family Forged in Steel, 1977 was the first year that Western knives started using the alphabet, starting with the letter "A", to date code their knives. The chrome plated ones were in really nice shape other then some chipping to the chrome and handle wear and maybe minor pitting. The knife he left us, which bears his name, ranks with the Kentucky rifle and the Colt Peacemaker as an. Western W49 Fixed Blade Bowie Survival Knife USA Leather Sheath Vintage: $260.00. $135.00, $150.00 The only sure way to get one that was in Vietnam is from a vet that can document the knife. AAPK Tips and Tricks -- An Illustrated FAQ Forum on Steriods, Knife Lore - Traditional Knives From the Old Days, Canal Street Cutlery Collector's Forum, Cattaraugus Cutlery Collector's Forum, Great Eastern Cutlery (GEC) Collector's Forum, Robeson Cutlery Company Collector's Forum, Schatt & Morgan Knife Collector's Forum, Knife Related Creation, Modification, And Restoration Forums. 2,955,665, 9,852,217 It was also the last year that Western manufactured their knives in Boulder, Colorado. (30% off), Sale Price 3,338,731 Original Price $169.99 If you come across a chrome plated Western Bowie it was probably plated for jungle use. Set where you live, what language you speak, and the currency you use. The W47 measures 12" from tip to hilt, W45 measures 9" and the 43 or mini measures 6 1/2". 1,952,663, 3,550,296 (70% off), Sale Price $184.50 Original Price 4,289,941 (45% off), Sale Price 2,068,966 The blade's spine is five . (50% off), Sale Price 1,097,291 Many sellers on Etsy offer personalized, made-to-order items. Original Price 3,550,296 In that year, the company was sold to Coleman, becoming Coleman-Western. With the above in mind at this time I would advise you to look for knives with one of the following markings: This is generally excepted as the first variation of the W49, This is the next version of blade marking the W49. You'll feel like an O Timber Rattler Whispering Winds Bowie Knife 19.98 Timber Rattler captures the beauty of the southwest with this handsome Whispering Winds bowie knife. The W49 is the most common found today. Original Price 6,157,389 "Leather handled Bowie". Its also home to a whole host of one-of-a-kind items made with love and extraordinary care. Original leather sheath. I believe that it provides a fairly accurate chronology of the Western W49 Bowie. We've sent you an email to confirm your subscription. It's the 30s to 76 that is sometimes enigmatic. by kootenay joe Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:49 pm, Post http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Knife_Company. In 1991 the rights to the Western brand was auctioned to the Camillus Knife Co. . 1,056,736, 1,243,264 (60% off), Sale Price $86.70 Nearly a foot and a half long. I have a long list of knives I kick myself for not buying. As a bowie knife, this was designed for hunting and survival, but as a high-priced Buck knife with a few dozen handle materials to choose from and the option to add a display box and an engraving it makes a pretty stellar gift and display piece. 203 pages of Case and Western Cutlery history from the time they were in the east through the move west to Boulder Colorado and after. Original Price 4,437,574 Original Price 7,118,227 Early productions blades were made of carbon steel, later productions are constructed of a high polished stainless. Original Price $164.99 Original Price 4,205,911 Value for money . Turning off the personalized advertising setting wont stop you from seeing Etsy ads or impact Etsy's own personalization technologies, but it may make the ads you see less relevant or more repetitive. The 4th variant also has larger pins. No, I never wrote it up. Stuart Bowie Knife $99.95 Details Robert E. Lee Prestige Edition Bowie Knife $99.95 Details Battle of Gettysburg Bowie Knife $99.95 Details Stonewall Jackson Bowie Knife $99.95 Details P.G.T. Average depth of cut with the same swing was almost a half inch. Is it possible that the ones you think are chrome plated are STAINLESS STEEL and the ones you think are not chromed are regular "carbon steel"??? According to Western's 1986 catalog they started producing the W49 in 1964. There are things in the old Book which I may not be able to explain, but I fully accept it as the infallible word of God, and receive its teachings as inspired by the Holy Spirit.. that was when i was riding with a club, i'm 6'2'' and 230 lbs (wish i still was ) and nobody messed with me, great trouble detorent lol. Below are pictures of the guard: Knife Repair, Modification, Restoration & Improvement. Etsy is powered by 100% renewable electricity. Stories of Cowboys and Indians and shoot-outs at the O.K. In 1911, H. N. Platts, was able to draw on his extensive friendships and family connections in the cutlery world to start Western States Cutlery and Manufacturing of Boulder Colorado. 1,097,291, 1,995,074 Set where you live, what language you speak, and the currency you use. You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. Original Price 4,962,808 Counter-Strike: Global Offensive. (35% off), Sale Price 2,020,725 It came in handy when I tested a Ontario sp 8 "machete". Weight for the weight weirdos is 1 lb 4 ounces knife only. Sold. It is guard marked: WESTERN BOULDER / COLO. USA on the mark side and BOWIE on the pile side. Blade edge is still quite sharp, and blade has been old period cleaned and is . 1,183,432, 2,958,284 This type of data sharing may be considered a sale of information under California privacy laws. Bowie Knives - Knife Depot Looking for a real knife? I am trying to decide between the Western, Case, Ontario, or the new Remington. This knife has a stock number of S-649. $84.99, $169.99 The way you set up your knife photos is inspiring. For Sale: Custom & Semi Production Knives (Dealer), KnifeMaker's Market: Knives & More for Sale, Wanted: Knifemaker / Craftsman / Related Services, Busse / Swamprat / Scrapyard Knives For Sale, For Sale: Traditionals, Slipjoints, "Old Timey", International (Non-US) For Sale & Trade Forums, http://www.knifeforums.com/forums/showtopic.php?tid/872513/tp/0/all/1/, http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3218/2432943915_de56f97a16_b.jpg, http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/941103-Western-W49-Bowie, http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1072453-Western-Bowie-any-info-appreciated. Try using a different browser or disabling ad blockers. Public collections can be seen by the public, including other shoppers, and may show up in recommendations and other places.

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