Using TurboSquid products in Browser based games. I read here on the forum can't remember if it was Iterate CGI or someone else said that CGTrader will soon sell on Amazon and I can't wait for it to happen!! I think I do a decent job at earning my keep.. And yes, it this is like if shapeways started doing cg. Maybe CG Trader should consider a large add-on to the site, where the customers can click a link, and go to a whole new site (owned by cg trader) that does sells strictly 3d printable models :) Just an idea :). Like when something breaks that is no longer in production like your favorite mug or something. A shitstorm war is going on between the "Wisdom" brothers & their Top $ Corporate Investors against Marius' CGtrader, who is leading the inclusive people that don't dance to the song of dangling shiny coins in front of their eyes just for the time being and the now. A possible solution for potential buyers looking to sample the work of sellers, would be for sellers to have their free sample models at a low minimal price instead of free. @IterateCGI These are great ideas and in fact we are currently working on one campaign that will involve the community to help market CGTrader better. The reason the model is sold at low price .some models have so many other sellers which can lose models value . There is a lamp that looks pretty cool (Gervasoni Bolla Floor light), and is supposedly free. Each sold model you can find anyone time in a download center. It doesn't matter if the printing industry is growing fast. That is a big killer for licencing anything here that you intend to sell the licence for, leaving me with having to licence at Thingiverse first then using CGTrader as advertising or selling copies of the files only. AFAIK buyers right to be refunded is protected by law. A rig is like a skeleton of a 3D model, which lets you move and pose it with little effort. So true! It is also my favorite 3D site but some things need to be fixed before they can overtake some of the other sites. Their only flaws are the lack of publicity and their search engine. Looks to me like they are providing a very content creator friendly environment. I was victim of that there a few months ago, I had a bad rating when the model have never had a problem during many years. Thus by searching to widen its audience, the buyer only decrease the site credibility. I removed the download limit until we update the protection so that buyers can download much larger quantities of free models. Plus, if you express constructive ideas on the forums, you know you'll get listened to. Also don't forget that people sell their photos and posters too. Maybe you think my words are disproportionate or naive but mark them now. When you search for specific models car, bike etc you usually end up finding a bunch of irrelevant models in there that don't even belong in that category and that is largely due to the fact that, they allow users to setup their own tags I'm not a modeler, I come here to buy models and this site is surprisingly obtuse when it comes to layout. So then people can actually customize and make cool toys and sell them on there. I removed all products from TS. Then someone ells will just create another CGt alike and Ts would have to keep buying these places ones a year, and after that it would have to buy them every month. Batman (Rig) for Maya 10. . And it is convenient for the buyer and profitable for the seller. Gritsuk : Hello Friends, glad to present you my model Female Hand Realistic. Thanks once again! This is critical information (to me at least) in regard to evolution and overall development of the products and services you want to deliver. In my experience often times a client will ask for certain models but then one must take into consideration what computer specs they have because you don't want your client to get frustrated with the models you buy. Dear adentonclark, for someone that is a little more unique. Best of luck to cg trader, they have a great business model and site, it is just going to be incredibly difficult to take any of the market share from such a well established company. - It's much easier to upload products here than at TS. CGt basically needs to be good at one thing, "facilitating a sales platform". with the recent requirements to upload a 3D product on TS, CGT became my number one no doubt, i'm not gonna wast half my life rendering turntables that wouldn't make much of a difference when every seller is doing the same thing. According to me ,in the future, more a 3DMarketplace will be open more it will take to success. I think we just need so some massive killer models of epic proportions that the 3D modeling community cant ignore. If that is the case then better not to become exclusive! To my repliers: This conversation has me glued to my monitor, all very well spoken and nailed down to the core. They also have multiple sellers selling the same products so that it is easier for people to avoid people paying for shipping in their country. The staff on CG Trader seem to be very active and listen to ideas from the community, so I will try to find time and post some ideas on how the problem could be solved. [13google->http://www.google.com/] Order 3D models. - Limiting, perhaps, the number of objects that can be uploaded in a row, to avoid having the front page confiscated by a single seller when ticking the "newest" filter. Change Method. 2. If you look at the traffic statistics, TS ranks around 9k top sites, and CGT at around 42k, so obviously, people buy more at TS not because they want to spoil the sellers, but rather because they don't come to CGTrader enough and their first place to search is TS. Most of the Ts artists also moved their work over here and almost everyone knows that, just not the ones hoe are exclusive, it's not going to take too long now before they systematically start breaking the exclusive contract when they see sales going down every month and things going up over here. If I am searching for a 3D model, I am not interested in 3D printing services, and vice versa. (this would be the core of the human sorting out system). In that case on CGTrader buyer can contact seller directly and ask him/her to fix the issue. The clients like to waste money for a more expensive model at TSquid, perhaps knowing that the artist will get shafted with a measly 40% return, and that's that. ! On the other hand, reason for refund should be solid. Regarding the support case, perhaps you could share the exact details on the case by a message or email to me (dalia@cgtrader.com) - we would like to look more into it and ensure that no cases like that are unsolved. Search is arguably most important feature of stocks and search in TS is head and shoulders (and then some more) above search in CGT. But they must realise that attracting more buyers only through more aggresive marketing is not enough. The classic idea of exclusivity, division and concealment as a strategy to get to a monopolistic position is bad for the industry and everyone is coming to the realization how bad it rely is. They call that "3D Industry" on the download report .. it's rare but it's happend (one time for me) I think the CGT does an amazing job of bringing people together! Marius Kalytis (founder of this place) was a 3D artist himself and took notice of the questionable policy's the established market had adopted (leaving room to do it differently). @dafunk @S/C. Agree with every word. A real pointless task. ,,The only thing that has cgtrader extra is the freelance job,,?? This is a photorealistic high-quality 3D full-body scan female character, rigged People SixPack 003 - Photogrammetry Population Character Rig, max blend c4d xsi ma lwo 3ds dae dxf fbx obj X, City People x500 Static Poses Lowpoly ArchViz, 20x LOW POLY CASUAL ELEGANT SITTING WOMAN MAN PEOPLE CROWD, Realistic White Male and Female Head Bundle. I make very nice sale here, and several each month, not as much as TurboSquid, but with 85% royalties I'm not complaining. https://vimeo.com/739678 CG Trader is easier to navigate, more stimulating perhaps than turbo squid. And CG Trader offers up to 94% royalty rate, where as Turbo Squid gives I believe 60% royalty rate CG Trader more open than Turbo Squid, and when registering, requires less personal information. Those are very interesting ideas to develop for the future. We want to improve the site not make it worse :). Hopefully this will start another interesting discussion . Remember The3DStudio? We will rather stick with cgtrader and know our models are safe, although the issue with finding CG models on the site is a little problem, but as long as they stay honest well be supporting them rather than supporting a bunch of thiefs and if we need to up our prices then so be it. Others download beautiful jpeg or tiff files to set as their desktop wallpapers at the office. i think they both have there place . The advance search option should obviously only be available for paid models so to avoid people only free loading and just finding all the free models. Ah crap, not sure how that referal spam sneaked into turbosquid link, here is the clean one: https://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/cathedral-paris-notre-dame-3d-obj/933856, I think that subsequently only large studios and squidguild members will remain there. I wanted to test if clients compare sites (eventually wanted to avoid clients would use the expensive Ts platform to get my items). Hi there, just want to ask about the artstation store, do they have a condition of not selling on other store? the only thing that has cgtrader extra is the freelance job posting area. Think about the best online stores today when people search for lamps on Amazon they will only find lamps in their search and that is why they keep buying on Amazon because it is a highly efficient and professional site where the buyers don't get lost or frustrated looking for what they want and can spend their time searching for the best quality product based on their budget. Im convinced now that when I would reactivate my Ts account I will just have a bit less sales here and get some sales over there, could be wrong but I don't care, 60% cut is ridicules and on top of that price guarantee is just total madness. Tom cat cartoon character rigged for Maya 12. I can think up multiple scenarios to try get a grip on it but I don't actually care anymore. What's lacking? Turbosquid has too many models My initial stance on this was, ok fine then my Ts account can stay up for those few that seemingly do not know anything ells outside of Ts. Ebay and Amazon would be great for the cartoony non realistic stuff as well as 3D prints so long as people make sure to document the files appropriately and let people know it is 3D and not real. Sure, but I won't rinse and repeat the whole uploading process if it happens though. Yes, CG Trader is the best now some bugs should be solved. tax on top of a high 60% that TS keeps. There is indeed much structural work that needs to be done here but the core foundation/principal is here. If I compare him with the founder of Ts, then it becomes clear to me we have a completely different relationship. We've been there, even being "Squid Guild exclusive" for some time to test the experience ourselves for real, and after more than 10 years with all our experiences and stats in hand we can state without a doubt that the business model offered by Turbosquid doesn't pay off in the mid-long term. Fine details have been sculpted on the model down to pores and fine lines on the face and body. TS beside ripping off taxes have a terrible support, I just was told in the civilized manner to F OFF, as I complained on an admin who kept my 3D model suspended for over 4 days. Cgtrader user interface is much more user friendly. Some may look great for close ups but in a large environment scene or house setting when you have a lot of models to let's say show off the interior design of a model home you need to be very careful on poly count. My friend didn't get any support. I'm always in favor for more options and less restrictions. But there are questions that are not achievable for TS, and they will not go to such steps, and it is this: 1. While sellers will be disadvantaged in many interests. personally CGTrader is the second site where I realize more sales, I think we should avoid generalizing his own experience. Get this item for $ when you bundle it with the items in your cart. you should check out all the posts about 3D models quality. Then there is the stupid "reputation" point issue. and cgtrader is easy to navigate and great UI, Turbosquid is a very shit comparing to CGTrader, i dont like turbosquid i prefer CGtrader absolutely, I think it is more comfortable to use. I'm about to bail on this site now - unless I can find any other topics that I might be qualified to post toapparently if I'm friendly enough I can earn some points, but it's seriously unlikely that I'll find any topics to which I can actually contribute. And to be fair, you will never get exact 40% from squid either, because they have payout fees too and also they withold certain amount from US purchases. See this GFXHub where you needed to pay a fee before you could download 3d models of Humster3d, Turbosquid and many other. . On the contrary, comparing 2013 to 2014 for the exact same period (January to August) our sales INCREASED in a 45%. Most people say you get more sales at Turbosquid than any other 3D marketplace, so even if you get a much lower royalty % in the end you get more money, and while this is true up to a point (NOT x80 sales in any case), what most people don't realize is what happens IF your products are NOT in Turbosquid but you continue to sell in other marketplaces and have a bit of patience. captainmarlowe is right. Personally I don' t see anything offending on human body, everyone has one but I respect that it could be offending to someone (especially kids) so it should be censured. CGTrader. (just playing with ideas here) I think John Hoagland already pointed out very well the most direct benefits of doing business with Cgtrader over Turbosquid. taken offline. I've often (not just at this site) downloaded "free" items to verify their quality before purchasing models from a vendorI had problems with 3-4 of the "free" items I looked at first here (having no idea there was a limit), and now I can download no more. A good platform should integrate all next gen communication technologies in order to support curent evolution and technological progress. So click on a category. I used to hate how it would crash constantly or find that half way through the process even after saving a draft,suddenly the poly count numbers or other text, numbers etc suddenly got erased. Checkmate is the only good thing Turbosquid has left to offer. A client would normally ALWAYS choose a cheaper price, that's a law of nature. Part of it is because they don't want to get scammed. Cgtrader better sell my shoes here than ts.plus webmoney plus royalty rate. Being between a rock (TS) and a hard place (CT) is a damn round the clock aggravation. I don't get paid until the 3rd, but I thought I'd download some things, look at their quality, fill up a cart and get prepared to purchase when the money comes around. Having too many high poly models in 1 scene can considerably slow down rendering times, work flow and even crash your computer making the entire scene unusable. When someone uploads a scanned model for 3D printing and tags it as "low poly", the model will appear even where it shouldn't. I've often (not just at this site) downloaded "free" items to verify their quality before purchasing models from a vendorI had problems with 3-4 of the "free" items I looked at first here (having no idea there was a limit), and now I can download no more. Not artist friendly at all, from uploading to statistics (Model views, downloads, and so on). Now if this individual was for real I would have loved to contact him and ask If he would like to give me that converted file in exchange for every dollar he paid for the model. But I think that CheckMate was especially created to bring artists to exclusivity, rather than promote quality. just 2 years ago still existed. For this, it is certainly the most pleasant place to sell models I know right now. So let's hope that at some point, the designers of the site will establish some filters to guarantee a minimal quality and, why not, a "good practice charter" for the sellers, or that they will explain some sellers that their attitude is not good in the long term for the site credibility. If I narrow to "man", it's even worse : 64 out of 128 models displayed are scanned 3d models. From moment I have enough things to sell here, I would come clean with myself and close my TS account with great pleasure. We all witness how bad it is for healthy competition and progress. You have to choose a category to get a refresh. But it should be also possible to turn this filter off. Buyer can contact seller directly, which can save him/her lot's of time and frustrations. A customer coming in from outside can view stores, search inside a store or still search the global data base. Blendswap.com5. He earns trust in this way and we know everything stands or falls with the coming and going of trust. In my personal opinion TS is working very hard towards buyers and exploits sellers as much as they can, well except few chosen ones, while CGT is taking great care about sellers, but leaving buyers somewhat aside. This is a totally separate "operation" that is going on under the acquisitions of CGstudio and T3DFM, which serve also as noisy cover to "wag the dog". The product team is reviewing your comments and this is something we will definitely work on. If it is true that other sites are taking a higher margin and a larger slice of profit share, they have some kind of capital to work magic with, both with artists who are accepting less and buyers who are paying more. To be honest, when I first found this site a few days ago I was really excited. My personal experience, having had a short stint as a 3d print seller on Turbosquid, is that they paint with way too broad a brush when it comes to potential IP infringement. i like the points system on cg trader . In response he founded this place on the core principal that the artist would come first. If you're searching for a regular model, you have to click on the little icon "CG models", but nothing changes on the page when you do so. Every freelancer is corporation of it's own. Login to PayPal to add your account as a payment method. TurboSquid is not a company that practices any kind of #FairBusiness, and there is many other cases from other people stating the same for different reasons: I tested it with golden palace, clothing and various hair, other textures, they all worked fine August 22, 2022 at 6:03 am #1859211 Sabrina Participant Rank: @Goblyn Glad you enjoy it! If you have any questions about these. Determining the optimal cost of the models is an important and difficult moment. Sales dropped to almost nothing. Buyer can contact seller directly, which can save him/her lot's of time and frustrations. At the time my CGt account was not performing so well and it enforced that belief (it was probably due to longer presence and better position on Ts and new on CGt). What that means is that customers have the illusion of it being the best site out there even if the quality of the products is way below CGTrader. It is also wise to invest in good ideas that are future proof. It is the best RR in the world ! Well, after a long search, I found a negative point from CGTrader compared to TS. Same for me, here. Yes you are right Zet! You don't even seem to get reputation points for purchasing items, assuming I've read the page correctly, and if that is the case it's just dumb. So part of the problem would probably be solved if a buyer would indeed get reputation points for buying models and gain more access in the process. Honestly I feel that it would be better to sell n bit slower that to have your models stolen. Turbosquid is basically a pyramid scheme for the most part unless you are established and have been in the top rank for many years. Prices are only guaranteed at the time of the creation of this document. CGtrader is founded upon the best ideas and the people hoe believe in it and keep supporting it no matter what and hard work and determination always win. Yeah nasty stuff, but hey, I better shut up because I'm one of the hypocrites that keeps supporting that place by having my work on it. But Also Turbosquid actively promotes models on their site with the use o. rigged People SixPack 003 - Photogrammetry Population Character Rig, Realistic Human Body Basemesh - UVMapped - Rigged, CARTOON MAN AND WOMAN - TOON MOTHER AND FATHER, Worker Mining Safety Female - Bella - Harness, Naked Fitness Blonde Woman with Tied Hair. Sometimes you have to support the buyer. Show more, By subscribing you confirm that you have read and accept ourTerms of Use, max, fbx, blend, uasset, tbscene and more, obj, fbx, unitypackage, prefab, mat and more. Many do not search the net, they go directly to TS and search there for models. Why should the artist suffer? And some may post a part of a set, and ad a link to the complete set, others may just do it to spread their work and name, etc. @ Supercigaleha, ha, a good point about ,,the famous CheckMate,, :) TS . I had a conversation with Eduardas he confirmed that they will improve the feedback system. And therefore it doesnt matter where it is. [http://www.google.com|google11] To bad this place is ridiculously expensive, you only get 33% of your sales. (I prefer not to learn/spent time to handle all the different 3D applications and conversions) Send of two customers so far (here on CGt), hoe asked for a maya version of this model. But I will look there only because I know what is cgtrader and how it works. Thanks iterateCGI, from the start we thought it will be best to expose the issues publicly, so other cg 3D sellers can see for themselves what they are exposed to when dealing with Turbosquid. CGtrader delivers the best basic structure to bring fort this new and healthy next gen market place. However, if you are found to be out of compliance again, your collection will be taken offline for a more extended period of time. Also, the problem comes from the sellers, not the site designers, for a large part. They're doing competitions, and that attracts artists, at least. This industry really needs a giant hub were al CGpeople (weather young and inexperienced ore diehard veterans) can communicate, learn, trade, fundraise and collaborate. From buyer perspective, i think CGTrader also have lots of advantages. Imagine how much easier it would be for a games company to do a search by typing in (sword, 15 dollars and then 500 polygons. The last handful of successful high end 3D studios still buy those models because they know that the scenes have to be clean, geometry has no odd manifold or abnormal issues and the modelers have to jump through all kinds of hoops to ensure the quality of the model including providing high quality 360 renders. That thing is just getting started ;-). and we lived the evolution of Turbosquid from being a pioneer of the 3D assets market working alongside the real content developers to become a typical corporation with financial backing from angel investors that only cares about financial results and is trying to strive the 3D market towards a monopoly where they can control both the producers and the customers, where acting as just a middleman gets Turbosquid the most profit from both. I stumbled across the same issues! Being an artist himself makes a huge difference in this regard. Turbosquid just has it backwards. It's like if shapeways.com will start selling classic "cg" models. We finally have some real genuine completion for the best sales platform. I was a seller on Ts for very long time but never liked it, felt the 60% cut was unjust, the aggressive tactics towards competitors was bad, the self centeredness to keep artist away from own clients was wrong, and there are many more reasons why it never felt home to me. I wont be using TurboSquid due to their royalty system and the fact that I would have to hunt down non-existing forms to prove I am not an American resident and thus avoid paying 30% govt. CG Trader. Login to PayPal to add your account as a payment method. I think that subsequently only large studios and squidguild members will remain there" CGTrader will have to do so at some point, or people in search of quality models will simply avoid it. We will only contact you if there's a problem with an order. I have always been amazed at how TS can pull off their selling stunt, I've got better stuff AND cheaper on here than on TS but the sales over there totally dominate. Basically giving your money to a tyrant of a service, not even free to set price on your own products accordingly. - Once in a while, alert all designers that a cleaning operation will be made, and wipe out objects that are of a too bad quality or copyright infringements. Respect and good luck to everyone who is here! Basically just like Turbosquid has done they have become the one stop shop for everything. Turbosquid.com4. In this case a collaborative action could be established to make the product more attractive. As every site takes a small cut from the sales of a model. Just my opinion, but look at homepage. It also seems to me like CG trader is looking out a lot more for the artists. TS can go to Hell, and never return again. I understand CGtrader's management don't want to bet on one horse but it probable lives the two horses crippled in this case. What I read on different forums seems obvious, exclusivity no longer pays. in the name of freedom expression of the buyer (???). @tomislavveg, that is very true, but as marvimation already mentioned, CGT first have to draw those buyers to its web, otherwise there's not much use from all those benefits if there's no buyers who could reap them :]. To me it feels like he is amongst us and we are performing a team effort. And good thing that you decided to tell about - such things should go public and be discussed. It's an example of waste of human recourses and time, because how many more are performing this same conversion work without telling? You can enter multiple email addresses separated by commas, Thank you for shopping at TurboSquid. Speaking of it, noting even stops me here from adding in the description of the model something like this,"If you are a maya exeprt and can successful convert this project, then I will completely refund you in exchange for that converted maya file". Gumroad is an awesome virtual marketplace where artists can create their own store and sell any type of digital asset, from textures to tutorial series. @interate CGI . TS going down. 60% cut could be ok if that cost could be added to the product but price guarantee makes that impossible. It is pretty difficult to find what you want but if you are only looking for free models then CGTrader's search engine is far better than Turbosquid. To me this was a sign that people know about CGt and that users have at least two accounts. I do not know if community-policing has helped other sites keep their products better organized. I have it is about 5%. Open a Support Ticket, Licensing questions?Contact your Shutterstock Customer Success Manager. You can download any 3d model in all popular 3d formats including MAX, OBJ, FBX, 3DS, STL, C4D, BLEND, MAYA and other. "that is where the big money can be", being able to part with an invention has value. Maybe it is unnecessary complex? Logout from your account and go to CGTrader home page. I'm not sure about your analysis. I'm suggesting a collective of store owners. Professional Rigged 3D Female Models Toggle Navigation; 3D Models New & Unrated Rigged Price. Fact is, the best is where is can make the most sales. That basically says paying customers aren't allowed access to supposedly "free" items. You are right IterateCGI it would be terrible for the photo realistic 3D models however if you think about it not that many 3D artists create things in that style and in some cases are capable of doing that especially some of the newbies. We at NoneCg think that both CGtrader and Sellers will benefit from the exact opposite policy. In my opinion, the worst Turbosquid is doing is minimizing the role and presence of the real content creators, being just a middleman reseller but trying to control all aspects of the product in a way that in the end the customer perceives it more like a "Turbosquid product" than a "Content-creator-X product". Be very wary when the artist is from India or other similar countries. Especially if the buyer asks to change something in the configuration of models or to clarify details. Some points for and against. But for the rest i do like the way cgtrader functions, more royalty rate, easy uploading and a community forum and job board. former the 3d studio, 3D export, creative crash and Turbosquid). In other countries like China film production is far better funded so perhaps CGTrader could try opening it's doors to Hong Kong film studios etc Japan is also far better funded and in fact Turbosquid is also selling models on the Japanese market.

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