A hint of tan. Any ideas on stain/stain combos and sealants to make it happen? Was a bit of a risky choice, went with a pretty unusual/bold extra wide 5" wide pattern and I think it turned out well. Please hire someone first before asking them to put down 'colour patches'. Think NCAA and NBA courts. My fear was that a lower quality finish would yellow or amber the wood. You have NOT hired installer yet! There was a warning on the front door telling everyone to stay out. BTW, we used Corian old fashioned solid surface Corian in our kitchen and in 2 bathrooms. If you search my other discussions on this site, youll see how I flip-flopped so many times Corian, stainless, Neolith, D e k t o n, Quartz, wood (for the island top) and finally back to Corian. If so, they are normal surface marking, nothing to worry about. It requires a special approach. We went with natural seal and traffic HD finish. (Mirror and lighting still not in). Why did you decide to go with Corian? I am in the same predicament and not wanting to settle for maple! Hi M, thank you! If ending up with the typical honey oak is my only choice, then I'd rather just get painted maple/mdfwhich isn't what I want! WebWhite oak refinish- Bona NaturalSeal. Did 4 coats of nordic and 3 traffic hd on 1 dollar a sq foot utility 4 inch white oak but some was red oak as well but still my dog likes it. The other two will give you more color. WebBona NaturalSeal is designed to be the foundation or first coat of a three-coat water-based system, so dont just use it for all your layers, thinking you are being clever and saving money. Getting gloomy from cool gray? Floors look VERY good! Of the Bona sealers, NordicSeal looks to white to me and AmberSeal - well the name says it all, trying to stay away from the amber look. My tub with quartz top. Also hope this helps .. colors hard to see on monitor, I tested classic seal, white stain and Nordic seal as well. 2 coats at the right coverage is more than enough for low traffic areas. @mtpo did you ever post final pictures of your floor? Thank you for your feedback. So due to budget going to have to give this a go on my own. I realize your flooring was "select" not #2 and that makes a difference. Bona Traffic finishes questions for people that have used it. I believe you can put Titan on top of Pullman's and then Fortico on top of Titanif you like Pallman's colors. The webpages say that Classic "highlights the natural color of the wood" while Natural is "designed to retain the appearance of unfinished wood" but having seen the raw, sanded wood which was remarkably gray, I don't know how the latter is possible. One that I just came up was someone who posted a picture of their island door with Bona NaturalSeal. @mtpo did you use a satin or matte finish? They are very unforgiving and I can't imagine these floors in a house with kids and a dog. So it looks like I must know what product I am likely to use before I can even find a pro.So I am experimenting on my own, trying to narrow down the options. I hope I get into the house before any subcontractors mess them up again! Webariel winters leaked what is 2 5 as a decimal holiday craft fairs near me 2022 The stain alone does not protect the floors, just adds color. , So your final finish was 1 coat of Nordic Seal with 3 coats of Bona Traffic HD satin? Our contractor suggested Bona Mega to save some money. And dont go forward unless they are willing to give you samples with ALL the finished coats. I have been on these boards so many times looking for advice and photos from what others have done. The use of water based is VASTLY different from oil based. 1,303 views Oct 22, 2020 We originally sanded this floor almost 20 years ago, this time the customer wanted a much lighter color. I do love the natural color. Any specific fillers recommended for the knots & gaps ? We tried a few Duraseal stains on samples and none of them were right. A sand/refinish of an existing floor = $4-$5/sf. This is Bona Natural Seal and Bona Nordic Seal on sanded white oak. WebWhite Oak Kitchen Cabinets - Bona NaturalSeal? If you don't like the look of "honey oak" then don't use oil based finishes. I went to the Neolith east coast showroom and actually picked something out I loved but my builders fabricator talked me out of it. Thank you, I don't know the specific name of it. The NordicSeal is a great product for red oak it safely bleaches the wood and removes the harsh red tones. However, as you can see from the photo, after the first coat, yellow dominated the room. We have only had our cabinets for about a month so I cant speak to long term durability yet but they turned out gorgeous. I have seen plenty of samples of his work. :), @bowmeister67 and @widdy23 I used exactly what bowmeister said , 1 coat of Bona Nordic seal and 3 coats of Bona Traffic HD satin. Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. Here are some of my samples. My plan was boba natural seal plus 3 coats HD extra matte, but I didnt know about a next final step, please provide detail/product for final sealant step. (Thank you @Joseph Corlett for giving me the confidence to use Corian and to Heartwood Solid Surfaces for doing the work.) Will there be less haze if we use a satin finish? We recently installed new white oak hardwoods and did not like the color they turned out and will be refinishing them again - would love to get it right second time around (felt the floors looked a lot different when complete than our small sample in round one). WebBona DriFast Stain is a premium quick-drying stain for interior hardwood floors. You want someone fully trained in the art of the 2-component (2K) water based system. My husband and I had 5" white oak floors installed and we are like the look of one coat of Bona Nordic Seal and two coats of satin water based polyurethane on our floors. You only need an inch. @widdy23 Seems like everything is taking longer than expected. If so what brand and color was used? How should I adjust these home plans to save $ or improve the layout. I talked to the contractor and told him that I had to figure out a different finish. Wow sounds beautiful! I am nervous about this and I'm wondering if anyone had trouble with white streaks on their floor? If you do NOT want ORANGEthen stay away from "oil" based finishes or "oil modified". Our cabinet maker hasn't been able to match what we are hoping for. Bona sealer to avoid uneven tannin pull due to using a water based poly, (especially on white oak), no stain, then Bona Traffic HD. Most of the base cabinets are covered with cardboard to protect them. If you you know you are doing something we offer on floor samples (3x3) in many combinations and finishes. Did you put your deposit down on a charge card? He said my sister was lucky ((so far) he said its really not supposed to be used for countertops. Thanks for the responses. Heres a close up. In your photos, it actually looks like your parquet is made solid squares, nicer to see larger woodgrain patterns instead of the 4 or 5 slat in a checkerboard pattern(each "tile" would have 12 or 14 etc total slats in one 1 sf "tile". NaturalSeal adds the LEAST amount of 'colour' (either white or yellowdoesn't matter) of all the sealants in the Bona line up. As for the cost of install$5/sf with FULL SPREAD glue + stain + sanding + finish (materials extra) is on the low side. I personally love Quartzite. Sigh. Can they be easily buffed out with a non-scratch sponge? Its no different than my quartz countertop and backsplash that also should not have acidic or harsh chemicals, and Im sure most professional contractors wouldnt recommended against quartz behind a stove. My guess would be red oak since they have gone more orange. Would love to see pics of the InteseSeal, as we are considering the same. Fortunately, the installer is sending them back to the lumberyard to be replaced. Many customers like a dark stain because it looks modern and the floor is easy to decorate. I'm so confusedthere is no flooring in the white oak, just the LVP. I am trying to figure out the same for my rift oak cabinets. Did you use one or two coats of the Nordic seal? Maybe instead of wanting it natural, I really wanted it lighter rather than a medium to darker stain. It looks like you have SOLID 5" (that ranks as wide plank = glue assist) White Oak. That's not what was happening. The real way this is tested is actually even meaner to the floor - normally you take a box cutter, cross-hatch the floor (IE cut it in a grid pattern), and then put the tape on it and rip it up. Seems I also read that it may not even cover that much some places. I have read so many wood floor horror stories. I got a quartz remnant for the tub area (a kinda white) in my hideaway bathroom and Ocean Jasper Quartz for the master ADA bathroom. A VERY trchnichally difgicukt finish yonachieve. Photos would be helpful. It was applied Saturday morning. Looks like it was a screen shot with the flooring compan of Seattle Hardwood out of Mukilteo. I worry that two coats might look too light, but with one coat, I still see some yellow coming through (my sample has the Traffic HD matte though, not satin). Let's see how long this finish last. Web108K views 6 years ago. And it does NOT cause amberingbut the Mega does. I have a dog that has an occasional accident. New This Week: 3 Knockout Kitchens With Natural Wood Cabinets, Trending Now: 11 Popular Kitchens That Rock Not-White Cabinets, New This Week: 3 Welcoming White-Cabinet Kitchens, New This Week: 6 Stylish Not-White Kitchen Cabinet Colors, 4 Kitchens With White Cabinets and a Wood Island. No scrape, no scratch, no nothing. It's a installer issue. I prefer to see 3 coats of the finishbut the Bona sealants are designed to be 'film building' sealants so they will add to the performance. I'm sorry but this finish is not "salvageable". It won't be cheap but it will be fast. I'm sorry you felt diminished. I didnt know what I wanted for finish when I contracted the job and their quote was for a cheaper finish. Classic seall will add more tan/yellow. Again, just make sure that you are getting professional grade rather than DIY grade product. In the finishing business, 'special' requires a bigger price tag. trump2 would love to see the final product and what you chose, if your floors are finished. We will be going with something close to that. WebBona NaturalSeal is a waterborne sanding sealer designed to retain the appearance of unfinished wood on your floor. WebBona DriFast Stain mix of White and Grey with two coats of Bona NaturalSeal and finished off with Mega ONE on this beautiful floor by Beyond The Grain Custom Design with Territory Manager, Jeff Offredo, on site. It was so clean, perfect match for my cabinets, so WHITE (no yellow, gray or beige cast). WebMy new white oak floors have 1 coat of Bona Natural Seal and 2 coats of Bona Traffic HD satin. Every client after that training will pay extra for his/her expertise. The advanced technology formula provides speed and high performance for hardwood floor finishing professionals. I have lived in my new house for 15 months and I love the look of my floors - they are easy to decorate with and give the home a warm but "cool" look at the same time. Stand up to the effects of UV on the oak over time, 3. @Ryan Danielson, I just told my cabinet maker to go ahead and order my cabinet doors in the rift oak so I've only got a couple of weeks to get this figured out. Or Loba 2K + their stain lineyou get the idea. If that does something, it's busted, you don't need to test further. I did call Bona and they assured me that none of the 3 sealers would add "yellow" or "amber" to my floors - but thought I'd also ask here. We just installed 5 white oak throughout our home. (The chocolate would have been fabulous next to it.) Here are some of my samples. Look forward to more pictures. 3 coats of HD.I am OOT so will post photos when I get home. These will give you the raw look, which prints tend to show up on. The refinishers used "Bona Dri-Fast Natural Stain", "Bona Classic Sealer"*, and "Bona Mega Satin" (two coats). Can you apply the Bona NaturalSeal and then apply a couple coats of something like the Renner? Classic seal gave a deeper color but I found it to be too yellow. Thanks so much in advance!! @Renee Czeryba, Natural SEALER and Traffic HD. Do you know if the Milesi you ordered includes sealer to stop tannin bleed and a UV filter? I have it in my home. @Renee Czeryba, my advice: when you test put sealer and finish on top to see how it is really going to look. We went with the Bona Nordic and Traffic HD. If he can't get it donethen hire someone NEW and send the bill to the original contractor. 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Milesi Natural 2k? Do you have high ceilings ? I asked for, but he never did, an all country white one. Here are our raw floors right now. You should look it up. I knew this was IT. Bona Naturale will also do this. * I didn't know that Classic Sealer added yellow that Natural Sealer did not but I didn't have anything to compare it to. Your floors are as important as your roof. Je peux rejeter les cookies non essentiels en cliquant sur Grer mes prfrences . San and finish guys come in next. It will not etch like Marble, but has a marble like appearance. Please dont post again while I figure out how to delete this post. Can you also please send a picture of the floors with the seal and traffic HD? They achieve 95% FULL CURE after 5 days. Unfortunately, we have put our kitchen reno on hold. I will report back once I have the application on a sample board. Carly, please provide source for your floors, exactly what Im looking for. Light, white sealed floors or dark dramatic floors? He is also meeting with Sherwin Williams this weekend at a trade show in Vegas and will see if there are any better options to achieve the Studio McGee look on rift white oak we are all looking for. Windows for a 1920's Spanish style home in SoCali. G & S isn't bashing you, they are bashing the 'dudes' in the industry. Carly, we are trying to decide between Bona Classic Seal or Natural Seal? It honestly looks just like our white oak (unstained, natural) - I wish I could leave it without sealer etc. carlyhow many coats of HD did they apply? A gallon of Varathane = $80 (Home Depot). Thank you for posting a picture! When he did the sample with a white stain (Duraseal) and my red oak floor turned pink, I stopped the work and started searching for a new guy. That means a coat of Sealant and two coats of finish. thanks, All! I acknowledged that there would be an upcharge for the TrafficHD and expected it. I plan to call the Bona company tomorrow to get their assistance. It is a way for everyone to see how easy it is to misunderstand posts. Thank you. It can work with a range of subfloors, including concrete, Looking for something different from an all-white kitchen? Thank you to all of the experts for weighing in. That's when we discovered he had never used water basedand that was the light-bulb moment for everyone. I did a lot of research and planned to try Bona NaturalSeal, Bona ClassicSeal and Bona NordicSeal on this round of samples. I think over the years, they learned how to avoid distressed clients who hate the finished floor color. A 2 minute working time is EXTREME. Dream Spaces: 12 Beautiful White Kitchens, Color of the Year: Off-White Is On Trend for 2016, Houzz Tour: A Beautiful Nordic Dream in Sweden, White Cabinets Remain at the Top of Kitchen Wish Lists. Good luck! You only need an inch. The raw wood that was laid (almost the whole house) looks beautiful. @mtpo - Your floors look BEAUTIFUL, thank you for sharing the pics, I can't wait to see the final product. LOVE, Blizzard fierce or butter soft, white can highlight shapes, unify a room and perform miracles on the cheap, Its typically the primary color in gardens. I thought I was going with Pallman's white, because it was gorgeous on the 15"X8" sample but on the larger sample with a new bundle of wood it pulled way too pink, even on white oak. ! We peeked through the windows and the floors are covered with brown paper. Is there a really hidden section (you only need about 1 inch square) that you don't mind possibly damaging? I read that Natural has a bit of white in it too to avoid the yellow, but unsure if that is fact. BTW -/ we learned that the color of the wood is different and takes the sealer or stain differently depending on where it is from. And it is taking me some time to get used to a matte floor. Carlyweiss, your post and pictures are so helpful for those of us in the choosing process. My kitchen is the opposite of yours with white cabinets and gray countertops and I like the way my natural white oak floors warm it up. :), McCarthy September 15 2020 post question about last sentence, or anyone please+sealant. If not, you can at least trivially test the floor: First. There are a couple places where either a dogs nail or something created a tiny gouge all the way through to the wood - so the Bona is not impermeable. Erfahren Sie hierzu mehr in der Houzz Cookie-Richtlinie. Houzz uses cookies and similar technologies to personalise my experience, serve me relevant content, and improve Houzz products and services.