comes from the shittiest of shitty, lazy parent(s). Serious victim mentality with both of them. She is the author of A Mother's Reckoning, a book about the signs she missed of Dylan's mental state. It's up to me what I do with it. The parents of Eric Harris, 18, and Dylan Klebold, 17, remained in seclusion Wednesday as a global media horde encamped at their houses after the murderous rampage Tuesday at Columbine High School. I wanted an apology. In the vacuum of actual news, they just start over again. Planning? The Klebolds stayed, at least as of 2004. here are some tidbits that might help you with the question. Ed Berg, a former business associate who has talked to Tom Klebold since the shootings, said Dylan's father has come to grips with the boy's crime. She also spent a lot of time conferencing with my teachers to know how well I was doing in school and she was interested in my assignments. . Describes how eric harris and dylan klebold approach columbine high school, in jefferson county, colorado. There are several theories but there is not one definition. I havent done anything for which I need forgiveness, Susan Klebold said. In Cub Scouts, he was a bright, dedicated boy who worked hard for his badges. There are also certain traits that lead to a school itself being more or less at risk for a shooting event: an inflexible culture, inequitable discipline, tolerance for disrespectful behavior, and a code of silence (p. 315). He started getting in trouble, and complained of how certain groups of kids were ruthless bullies, yet the school did nothing to stop them. We will just do the opposite and everyone will be safe. GOLDEN, Colo. (AP) _ Less than three months before his deadly rampage at Columbine High School, Dylan Klebold was described by a probation officer as intelligent and capable of making any dream happen, according to juvenile records made public Friday. "I wonder if there was any homosex between those two.". The school shooting took place on April 20, 1999 at . What a twat. Too bad. These are all great examples of Tom's relationship with Dylan. In my opinion, what went on in their home led to Columbine.. He'd gone with a traditional black tuxedo, bow tie slightly askew. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. I didn't like life too much and I know I'll be happy wherever the fuck I go. Theyd never seen his rage, nor ever felt scared of him. It didn't seem to slow down the ordinary media train. How often did they fix things up, was he emotionally available for Dylan? Dylan Klebold, along with his friend Eric Harris, shot and killed 13 people and injured 23 others in April, 1999 in Columbine High School, before they turned their guns on . His parents didnt yet know to monitor his internet usage. In this case, the other shooter played a pivotal role in stoking Dylans rage and allowing him to break out of his own passivity and actually take steps toward the suicide he craved. Maybe he needs to go home. Sue Klebold. Asking how instead of why allows us to frame the descent into self-destructive behavior as the process that it is. "This was murder," he said. 26 March 2017. Join date : 2014-02-11. Yes, it's the fifth anniversary of when you met your partner and you go out to dinner and somebody's child is relentlessly screaming throughout dinner that's fine. Sue Klebold's son was one of the shooters in a mass killing at Columbine High School 19 years ago. If I didn't know that I would have done the same. From her comment on her official website, she felt it was disrespectful to focus on the killers when today should be all about the victims. Dylan Klebold's father contacted authorities, saying the boy might be involved and offering to help, Jefferson County District Attorney Dave . Why does anyone think that parents know or care what their children do? Eric and Dylan worked extremely hard to conceal their machinations. He lays bare the callous brutality of mastermind Eric Harris and the quavering, suicidal Dylan Klebold, who went to the prom three days earlier and obsessed about love in his journal. And while his father was the epitome of the military asshole, having to deal with him only served to hone Eric's skills in fooling people. And he's not pulling a lot of punches about the media saturation either, and doesn't let the Rocky off the hook. The couple said they felt under siege after the shooting and never had a chance to grieve for their son. No scientist knows this absolutely. Tom is a geophysicist, Sue works with handicapped people. There will always be apologists for the Harris parents who incredibly state that parents have no control over their children. Its hard to tell. Eric: "Susan, sorry. He's wearing a plaid shirt, either dark blue or black with white; the shirt's untucked. Adam killed 20 children and 6 adults at Sandy Hook Elementary. She's spent years excavating every detail of her family life, trying to understand what she could have done to prevent her son's violence. In general: School shootings happen most at high schools, with a student at the school acting alone as the shooter. If a kid is screaming endlessy, you remove the child from the area. on Thursday, April 23rd, 2020 A place to discuss the massacre that took place at Columbine High School in Littleton, CO on April 20th, 1999. The testimony people point out of a co-worker stating Dylan didnt get on with his father is unreliable as he couldve been having a teenage moan or joining in one time right up to regular bitterly disparaging remarks and reasons why. Dylan Klebold along with his friend, Eric Harris, committed the Columbine High School massacre 17 years ago. You can't learn to feel if you don't. I can't find any photos of Eric's older brother, Kevin. Dylan was a depressed teenager with many mental issues. Dylan ended the shooting which saw 13 . Coni Sanders, whose father, Dave Sanders, a . Has anybody ever agreed with you about that, r104? In a story for Sundays editions of The Post, Lozow related the first moments after the Klebolds learned of the shooting. I can handle them "spending too much time on the killers", but unfortunately I recognize there are too many whackjobs in this country who would just see it as glorification. Eric's parents were both born in Colorado but while his father Wayne Harris was working in the Air Force as a transport pilot, Wayne held 11 different positions at six different bases in Ohio . ", Eric: (shrugs) "My parents might have made some mistakes that they weren't really aware of. Firstly, like everyone else he didn't pick up on his mental health nor was Dylan apparently showing it to his 'best friend.'. Dylan Klebold (Dylan Bennet Klebold) was born on 11 September, 1981 in Lakewood, Colorado, United States, is a 20th century American mass murderers. That's why Dylan got one for Christmas 99, it was Tom's way of finding something to bond with with Dylan. He was easy to raise, a pleasure to be with, a child who had always made us proud (Klebold, 2016, p. 61). If that;s the case, why did he have so many friends? It Always seems like he didn't give a damn about them, in his writings and in the Basement Tapes. Funny how things cycle.". [quote]I think he made only one phone call to a recruiter. Psycrotrenic, charter member of the International Reb&Vodka fan club. Subject: Re: The Klebolds are DIVORCED Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:17 pm. For an optimal experience visit our site on another browser. Wayne worked as a transport pilot for the United States Air Force, while . Sue had no idea it was a life-and-death situation. After-hours phone calls to Times officials were not returned, and Brooks did not immediately respond to an e-mail request for comment. But there isn't one thing. ". Eric was born in Wichita, Kansas. People need to understand this could have happened to them, he said. I don't think I can categorize Dylan's relationship with his parents as bad or good, because Dylan was incredibly disturbed teen and clearly had a skewed perception of reality. This is my (completely layman's) opinion, but I've always figured that we have more or less tamped down the "How" of the brain, but we're still working on the "Why" of the brain. Dylan Klebold's father, is Lutheran, and said her son . The second of the Columbine killers, Dylan Klebold was a "born genius" who, despite a sensitive disposition, experienced explosions of rage (most often brought on by failure or humiliation,) suicidal tendencies, a disdain for the "zombie"-like human race, and a suggestibility upon which the psychopathic . That's not contrition, it's a final fuck you to the world. [quote]I can't believe Oprah canceled her Columbine show today. Family & Personal Life. When it came to intervention, these people had no idea what they should have been doing. The interview is set to air on "20/20" this Friday, coinciding with . They've got a son who's very bright and makes good grades, yet he hasn't applied to college and has made only a half-assed attempt to enlist in the Marines (I think he made only one phone call to a recruiter). Sue Klebold, whose son Dylan, 17, went on a shooting rampage with his friend Eric Harris, 18, at their high school in Colorado in 1999, . ", Eric "If only we would have searched their room. When you think about it, in his journals he didn't have too much positive to say across the board. And now she won't show it. The bombing was planned for April 19th, to coincide with the Oklahoma bombing, but for some reason, they were set back to the 20th. [quote]He had been in a gifted child program, and you'd think they'd have some type of monitoring since kids who are that advanced frequently have problems. I think he was broken over the loss of his son, and wants to remember the boy Dylan was and not the murder he became? x93There is no comfort for parents here,x94 Cullen told me yesterday. I say this as a person who worked as an assistant to special needs kids for years. His grades fell to average. Children learn psychopathy from their parents (e.g., the Bushes). The people who run gifted programs are often special ed teachers who just got assigned that particular duty, and have the attitude that being smart is its own reward. You can criticize psychiatry without being a Scientologist. Unfortunately, we only have her word today as to what went on in the home. Dylan (Klebold) did not do this because of the way he was raised, Susan Klebold told columnist David Brooks in Saturdays editions of The New York Times. so it seems that they had a pretty solid relationship from what has been released. When early word came that the Trench Coat Mafia may be involved in the shooting, Tom ran downstairs to look for Dylans trench coat, which he couldnt find, Lozow said. Harris' family eventually settled in Colorado in 1992. Guns and weapons? . . The Klebolds attorney, Gary Lozow, told The Denver Post the Klebolds had no plans to grant any other interviews. Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold are once more in the family room of the Harris home. Even still, he seemed happy and had a handful of close friends. I didnt hear it.. ", Dylan: (talks about how his parents taught him to be independent and self-reliant) "I appreciate that.". Bull fucking shit. I don't believe that Tom and Sue were annoying parents. People that want to pretend that the parents were just innocent distant bystanders who had no responsibility for anything that happened are repulsive. If someone read my journals as a teen, youd assume my Mom and I would have killed each other by now, but now we are pretty close. The problem, Cullen concludes, was that there is almost nothing that can be done to help psychopaths. When I was 16 my parents sure as hell would have known if I had firearms in my possession or were building pipe bombs anywhere near our home. These people do have emotions. LITTLETON, Colo., April 24 - The parents of Dylan Klebold, one of the teenage shooters in the Columbine High School massacre, said goodbye to their dead son . OP, I agree with you. When I hear this "We never knew a thing was wrong with our child!" You shouldn't attack people for the actions of their offspring. His negative traits werent out of the ordinary either, really: he was very sensitive to embarrassment, which sometimes led to anger; and he was perhaps a little too independent, where he wouldnt ask for help even if he needed it like when he had to take a break from baseball after pains he never mentioned became so bad they caused his arm real damage. This girl went on screaming for full minutes at a time - nobody came out of the house and told her to be quiet. Dylan seems to have been a very unhappy person. Sue received a number of letters from people whod gone to Columbine who were more surprised that a shooting hadnt happened sooner than that one had happened at all. Eric Harris, 18, and Dylan Klebold, 17, walked into Columbine High School with shotguns, automatic weapons, and homemade pipe . Dylan is wearing a black baseball cap on backward, exposing a "B" embroidered in white on the back of the hat - the Boston Red Sox logo. "In my opinion, what went on in their home led to Columbine.". Thank you! For a couple reasons. Other than that, we don't have much indication that Tom was anything other than a good father. I was just messing with you all a little bit in my other posts. Sorry. Is that correct? armed with one 10-shot hi-point model 995 carbine rifle, one intratec ab-10 (tec-9) pistol, two savage 12-gauge shotguns, and as many as .